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I’ll attempt to dill this hole. In regards to Megatron freezing up, what caused him to shut down in the arctic wasn’t the cold itself, but the sudden drop in temperature after the superheated friction in the atmosphere. Its a property easily observed in the field of ceramics. Second, when BB was frozen by S7, he was fully in robot mode, with some of his inner workings exposed. The other autobots in the atmosphere didn’t have a problem with that because they were in their alt-modes upon their descent, so their inner workings weren’t vulnerable.
lmao i was watching the movie today and i was thinking how could they move megatron from the arctic to the hoover dam without him melting in the first place.
i blame Michael Bay, actually i always blame Michael Bay.
First off Lil-Megs is cute nice comics, Second Megatron is not dead how can he be killed by the source of life it’s energy mixing with more energy besides he dosen’t die that easily. And if you read the movie comic Megatron became un-frozen and a group of people died trying to freeze him again, so basically he killed them all but they managed to refreeze him.
I believe its not the COLD that imobilizes the transformers, but the ICE. in space, there is no moisture to be frozen. the comic is still funny though, keep making them.
You do realize that in space, it isn’t really cold, right? I mean, the interstellar medium is cold, but there is very, very little of it. There’s no convection, and no conduction to speak of. One of the biggest problems in space is dissipating heat!
Please tell me you realize this, and that it’s just the characters being foolish.
Kudos for being a Discoworld fan, Mr. Door, but it is hard to tell without Moylan commenting.
In Salmon of Doubt there is a bit where Douglas Adams writes about when he began to lose faith in comedy. It was a comedy show where one of the jokes was about why don’t they make airplanes out of black box material.
He realized it was because of weight reasons that such a plane would never work. Adams looked around at all the people laughing that didn’t realize this. From here he began to realize many jokes only work if you are ignorant or you play off the audience’s ignorance of the subject.
So either Matt is/was ignorant of the fact, or he knew/knows and made this comic as a joke at all of those who don’t know.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh………………………………………..Jazz, you’re HOT. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest plate.
For the record: Bumblebee and Megatron were frozen IN ICE. It’s rather difficult for a machine to operate with ice in its mechanisms, you know? Since there’s no moisture in space, ice wouldn’t have formed on the TFs as they flew through space.
Yeah, it’s not actually cold in space. Temperature is a property of matter and space, unlike planets, don’t have matter everywhere. Heat is only ever lost by transfer to other objects (Conduction and Convection) or radiated off (incredibly slow).
Nasa has huge problems with spacesuits overheating, not the other way around. Lrn2science
Megatron’s problem wasn’t the cold. It was he had just flown all the way from Cybertron to Earth under his own power, and landed on ice, after being superheated from entry, and fell through the ice, then ran out of energon. They explain it in the movie comics.
First, i think they’re referring to the end when they dip the corpses in the ocean, where the temperature and pressure would crush them. Second, they used sabot rounds to attack the Decepticons, which are really frickin’ hot! Third, the hell is He-Man complaining about plot holes, his show never made any sense!
Ah, basic physics, how poorly people understand you.
Seeing as how fire extinguishers were effective I’d assume that the TFs in the movie were making use of oil-based hydraulics. It gets cold, the oil thickens up and resists flowing, and the TF loses it’s ability to move.
Naturally, that doesn’t explain why Megatron was apparently kept comatose by the cold, or how his reactor kick-started itself as soon as he thawed, or etc…
But then again it IS a movie, and screenwriters aren’t so great at finding and patching plotholes.
Space isn’t cold, or at least not enough that you’d actually feel cold. This is because the only way to lose heat in space is by radiation, which is the slowest method of heat transfer, meaning it’d take ours to freeze to death in space if you managed to get around the whole imploding thing. Not to mention that making it cold wouldn’t stop it since there’s no moisture there’s nothing that can keep him still, so even really cold he’d just be really brittle till he warmed up. Also it is unlikely that they’d ever cool down due to the fact that space is a good insulator (due to the radiation thing I mentioned earlier) meaning they’d have problems COOLING DOWN rather then warming up.
Space is not cold. It is not. I cannot TELL you how many people make this mistake. It gets kinda irritating. It actualy is quite hot if you are, say, anywhere close to a galaxy. And while the void in between is cold, it can easily be explained by saying that they had heat (and pressure. And insert radiation type here) insulation. Or something like that. And that they weren’t in different galaxies. And you’re questioning the physics of a Michael Bay film? Really? As if the plot holes, scratch that, over all stupidity, weren’t enough?
1. Vacuum is a great insulator; the big problem is actually COOLING in satelites etc in space.
2. The 3 K temperature is in the deep voids of space, not near stars and within galaxies.
3. Sunlight would warm you MUCH better outside of an atmosphere than within it, to the point of radiation sickness/roasting.
May 26th, 2008 at 4:38 am
LOL
Loving a stay-home gathering of 80s characters on a movie-night.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:04 am
I’ll attempt to dill this hole. In regards to Megatron freezing up, what caused him to shut down in the arctic wasn’t the cold itself, but the sudden drop in temperature after the superheated friction in the atmosphere. Its a property easily observed in the field of ceramics. Second, when BB was frozen by S7, he was fully in robot mode, with some of his inner workings exposed. The other autobots in the atmosphere didn’t have a problem with that because they were in their alt-modes upon their descent, so their inner workings weren’t vulnerable.
June 15th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
There’s a really simple answer to why this isn’t a plothole: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConvectionSchmonvection
June 17th, 2008 at 1:21 am
lmao i was watching the movie today and i was thinking how could they move megatron from the arctic to the hoover dam without him melting in the first place.
i blame Michael Bay, actually i always blame Michael Bay.
June 22nd, 2008 at 7:39 am
megs is dead hoo cares
June 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
First off Lil-Megs is cute nice comics, Second Megatron is not dead how can he be killed by the source of life it’s energy mixing with more energy besides he dosen’t die that easily. And if you read the movie comic Megatron became un-frozen and a group of people died trying to freeze him again, so basically he killed them all but they managed to refreeze him.
July 9th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
jazz is anoyed
July 11th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Jazz, dude, calm down will ya?
July 11th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Yeah, it’s not good for your health. lol
July 11th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Wait, isn’t Jazz dead in the movie?
July 14th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
thats rong because they’re weakness ist cold its the magnetical field and megs CRASHED!
July 15th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
the avatars page is in the background
July 20th, 2008 at 12:31 am
Why is Jazz of all characters defending this movie when they turned him into an annoying idiot who gets killed?
August 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
I believe its not the COLD that imobilizes the transformers, but the ICE. in space, there is no moisture to be frozen. the comic is still funny though, keep making them.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
What’s with everyone bashing Micheal Bay all the time…?? BESIDES killing Jazz off… that is probably the only thing that pissed me off.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
You do realize that in space, it isn’t really cold, right? I mean, the interstellar medium is cold, but there is very, very little of it. There’s no convection, and no conduction to speak of. One of the biggest problems in space is dissipating heat!
Please tell me you realize this, and that it’s just the characters being foolish.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Kudos for being a Discoworld fan, Mr. Door, but it is hard to tell without Moylan commenting.
In Salmon of Doubt there is a bit where Douglas Adams writes about when he began to lose faith in comedy. It was a comedy show where one of the jokes was about why don’t they make airplanes out of black box material.
He realized it was because of weight reasons that such a plane would never work. Adams looked around at all the people laughing that didn’t realize this. From here he began to realize many jokes only work if you are ignorant or you play off the audience’s ignorance of the subject.
So either Matt is/was ignorant of the fact, or he knew/knows and made this comic as a joke at all of those who don’t know.
October 5th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh………………………………………..Jazz, you’re HOT. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest plate.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
You’re telling me, Jazz…
October 24th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Jazz baby, you need to take a chill pill!
November 15th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
November 18th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
For the record: Bumblebee and Megatron were frozen IN ICE. It’s rather difficult for a machine to operate with ice in its mechanisms, you know? Since there’s no moisture in space, ice wouldn’t have formed on the TFs as they flew through space.
November 21st, 2008 at 10:25 am
Yeah, it’s not actually cold in space. Temperature is a property of matter and space, unlike planets, don’t have matter everywhere. Heat is only ever lost by transfer to other objects (Conduction and Convection) or radiated off (incredibly slow).
Nasa has huge problems with spacesuits overheating, not the other way around. Lrn2science
December 1st, 2008 at 9:33 am
Megatron’s problem wasn’t the cold. It was he had just flown all the way from Cybertron to Earth under his own power, and landed on ice, after being superheated from entry, and fell through the ice, then ran out of energon. They explain it in the movie comics.
As for Bumblebee…I got nothing. Iced joints?
December 12th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
plot holes that even Optimus would steer around…
December 14th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Who’s the cowboy dude in this? I remember they had mechanical horses, but I can’t remember what they were called…
January 29th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
First, i think they’re referring to the end when they dip the corpses in the ocean, where the temperature and pressure would crush them. Second, they used sabot rounds to attack the Decepticons, which are really frickin’ hot! Third, the hell is He-Man complaining about plot holes, his show never made any sense!
March 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
HEY MATT, JUST A QUICK WUESTION, WHATS THE SKETCH IN THE BACK OF? IT LOOKS SO COOL
April 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
LOL. So cute! And look in the back theres lilformers on the wall
April 21st, 2009 at 12:16 am
Ah, basic physics, how poorly people understand you.
Seeing as how fire extinguishers were effective I’d assume that the TFs in the movie were making use of oil-based hydraulics. It gets cold, the oil thickens up and resists flowing, and the TF loses it’s ability to move.
Naturally, that doesn’t explain why Megatron was apparently kept comatose by the cold, or how his reactor kick-started itself as soon as he thawed, or etc…
But then again it IS a movie, and screenwriters aren’t so great at finding and patching plotholes.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Hey that’s right XD They fly through space and Megatron gets frozen o.O? Somethings fishy here, Mr. Bay. XDD
May 6th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Hey Teletraan. The cowboy dude sitting with He-Man on the couch is Marshal bravestarr from Bravestarr
May 11th, 2009 at 4:56 am
OH NO! Why in the name of hell!! I hate Bravestarr O_O
January 4th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Space isn’t cold, or at least not enough that you’d actually feel cold. This is because the only way to lose heat in space is by radiation, which is the slowest method of heat transfer, meaning it’d take ours to freeze to death in space if you managed to get around the whole imploding thing. Not to mention that making it cold wouldn’t stop it since there’s no moisture there’s nothing that can keep him still, so even really cold he’d just be really brittle till he warmed up. Also it is unlikely that they’d ever cool down due to the fact that space is a good insulator (due to the radiation thing I mentioned earlier) meaning they’d have problems COOLING DOWN rather then warming up.
Space simply does not work that way: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay
May 24th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Space is not cold. It is not. I cannot TELL you how many people make this mistake. It gets kinda irritating. It actualy is quite hot if you are, say, anywhere close to a galaxy. And while the void in between is cold, it can easily be explained by saying that they had heat (and pressure. And insert radiation type here) insulation. Or something like that. And that they weren’t in different galaxies. And you’re questioning the physics of a Michael Bay film? Really? As if the plot holes, scratch that, over all stupidity, weren’t enough?
November 13th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
if they saw megatron frozen jazz wont like whats coming
December 20th, 2010 at 2:07 am
Three reasons why you are totally wrong on this.
1. Vacuum is a great insulator; the big problem is actually COOLING in satelites etc in space.
2. The 3 K temperature is in the deep voids of space, not near stars and within galaxies.
3. Sunlight would warm you MUCH better outside of an atmosphere than within it, to the point of radiation sickness/roasting.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Space isn’t cold. Space isn’t any temperature. ‘Cold’ is a property of matter.
April 6th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
They hybernate nitwit
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:06 am
Space isn’t cold. It’s 3 kelvin. Well above absolute 0.
November 22nd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
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