Another one for the Trekkies! It’s kind of funny that Archer is the only Captain who still exists in the new Trek verse heh… oh well. The ironing is delicious (at least my ironing is).
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June 15th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Well, it is assumed that a leap of such proportions would be necessitated by quantum mechanics. “Al! Al! Why are they looking at me like that?”
June 15th, 2009 at 5:40 am
BRING BACK THE PRIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 5:49 am
Is the first background “captain” Scotty? Spock and Sulu were both promoted post Star Trek: TMP. I mention this as someone who has considered writing a Sulu/Chekov slashfic.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:54 am
Evil chuckle. The best irony in this is it’s Janeway that shouts “no one likes you”. Why don’t we look at this differently. It’s not that Archer is the only captain not ret-conned out of existence. Instead he’s been thrown out of the Classic Trek universe, now al we have to do is boot Voyager out and we have the perfect trilogy…
June 15th, 2009 at 6:33 am
I gotta admit, I rather liked Enterprise
And didn’t Scotty say in the new movie that there was a transporter hiccup involving “ADMIRAL Archer’s prize beagle?”
Porthooooooos ;_;
June 15th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Wonderful thing called quatum mechanics means both timelines exist alongside eachother. Watch the TNG episode “Paralells” for more info on that.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Read: Star Trek Countdown - TNG certainly does exist in the new timeline…
June 15th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Yeah the other captains will likely still exist in the new time line, just that they might be somewhat different due to the changes. Besides most of them are another 80-100 years down the timeline aren’t they?
June 15th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Good grief I hated Kirk (womaniser) and I hate Archer (wetter then limp lettuce IMO). Picard was rather nice (that accent is still yummy), Sisco was ok, and I got compared to Janeway through college all the time.
June 15th, 2009 at 8:28 am
While I never was a Trekkie in the sense I went to conventions & dressed up, I faithfully watched every Star Trek episode ever made, and the reruns, and loved them all. I don’t get, and don’t care to get, why Archer and the Enterprise series was hated. I loved every captain, every crewmember from every series. Fin.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:17 am
I Also enjoyed Enterprise, and liked Archer. Funny strip though.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Techinicaly, when Nero went back in time and changed the past, he created an Alternate timeline, he didn’t actually Erase the main time line. That’s why older spock didn’t disappear. It’s basic “Back to the Future” time travel mechanics.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:31 am
I agree that the main captains will still exist and I’m sure we’ll see them in future movies, but the thing I like most about the new Star Trek direction is the loss of the Vulcans pretty much. Gives the Federation more of the feeling it’s on its own. Might make things a little heavier and darker. More Gritty like the new Battlestar was. I say Federation vs. Klingons for the next movie.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:58 am
I really enjoyed Enterprise and Archer. He’s no Kirk or Picard sure, but he was a good captain. It was the first Starfleet ship remember.
Still loved the strip.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Hahahahaha. I don’t even know who Archer is, but…
“The ironing is delicious.”
June 15th, 2009 at 10:14 am
I loved Enterprise so I love this comic.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Actually given how Enterprise ended, what with the whole Holodeck bit, then in a way his adventures could be said to be erased from the current movie continuity.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Probably the root of my disappointment with “Star Trek”, that whole Alternate Reality setting… and that’s from an Enterprise fan. To hell with purists moaning about the revised TOS look, they just bitch because they never got that Production Designer job. Screw them! They should’ve just gone the traditional prequel route and not devised this “alternate to Trek” stuff…
June 15th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Spot on, Matt. Click my name to go to my site to read my thoughts on all this business.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
I’m not very savvy on Star Trek, but we Transformers geeks are kind of used to parallel universes, so, we don’t mind…
June 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Hahaha.., but to be fair, the rest of the guys are future captains, so their existence is still probable, plus the new trek-verse is an alternate reality.., so the old trek-verse still exists..
June 15th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
*cackles* LOVE this strip~ Maybe because I love Enterprise a little too much. And the new movie. And, hell, the other shows, too, but still, definitely made me laugh.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
@Covenant
Every crew member in every series? Come on their must of been at least one person you didn’t like…perhaps Wesley or Neelix?
June 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
*sigh* You know, with all this crap dancing around the issue with alternate timelines, you’d think someone among the current Trek staff would be honest and come out and say ‘We’re rewriting this and ignoring all of Roddenberry’s work because we don’t give a s**t about it, him, *or* the fans. So suck it up and f*** you.’
June 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Q-Squared (by Peter David) ran with simultaneous timelines including one that I think had Jack Crusher as First Officer on the Enterprise and not Riker. I cant’ be sure of that but I know it had Jack Crusher in it and he was very important to the story.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
The only future person who’s existance is really up in the air is Tuvok.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Technically Archer’s life was changed because he lived longer then the primary universe and his dog porthos had to suffer a transporter experiment because of simon pegg’s scotty
June 15th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Porthos will turn up somewhere. This is Scotty we’re talking about.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
The old captains still exist. The new movie just caused a major splinter in time forcing a parallel universe.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Okay, since when did Star Trek become Sliders? Between standard reality, alternate reality, and the Mirror, Mirror reality, someone’s gonna have to build a timer just to keep track of everything.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
@NZPRIME
Please, PLEASE give Matt a break from Transformers (for now).
June 15th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Only problem with this comic is, The other universe still exists, it’s just short one Spock now.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Anyone got a count on which alt. timeline the new movie is? Mirror Universe, the Shattered Universe, and so on… not to mention parallel versions of the same characters (William and Thomas Riker as an example). I never much cared for ST:E and until recently I wasn’t a fan of Classic, but the 1701-D and beyond era is great. A shame it’ll be most likely put on the shelves from now on.
Star Trek’s motto: “We need a plot device… quick, screw with time-space!”
June 16th, 2009 at 12:45 am
How do you buy the plush Lilformers?
June 16th, 2009 at 12:49 am
Love it! Matt, you’re the master the cartoon outburst!
June 16th, 2009 at 1:32 am
The situation is more complicated than that.
Romulans were known by face to the Federation as a divergent race of Vulcans, Pike was the first captain of the Enterprise which launched at least five years later than “previously”, and other subtle but significant changes have been noted. Many of them can be explained by the presence of Nero in this timeline… but can all of them?
Now rewatch that episode of TNG with hundreds of 1701-D’s from hundreds of divergent timelines, each with a slightly different quantum signature. A rescue mission would not seem to be out of the question, or at least an “intervention” by the Department of Temporal Investigations…
June 16th, 2009 at 1:38 am
…Sorry, that would be the Temporal Integrity Commission in the 29th century, which is tasked with maintaining the timeline in which it exists. They’ll see this Nero vs Spock thing and before you know it, somebody from the 23rd century has gone back in time (seemingly of their own free will) and made it a Moebius Unparadox. (That is, an open time loop.)
June 16th, 2009 at 3:00 am
Wait, some fans of a Sci-Fi show are complaining about the exisitence within their shows premise of alternate universes and divergent timestreams? Since when has basing plot points in sci-fi and actual real-world modern scientific theory been a bad thing? I know `alternate universe’ get’s used qutie a bit… but isn’t that just because the actual science of alternate universes (strong theory etc) is so darn interesting and fruitful from a creative perspective?
Also, funny stript.
Also, Sisco’s my fav Captain.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:25 am
You know people, I think most of you are forgetting the point here.
Is not important that the prime universe was erased by the new one or exist in a parallel timeline. What matters here, and what Matt is pointing out is that the Prime universe will never be see in tv again. All the captains, and those stories are closed.
From now on, every new Star Trek movie or tv show will start in the Abrams-verse. I’m sorry if that is sad for you, but better get use to it.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:37 am
Nice one Matt. I like how Picard pointed out that Archer was talking to himself. Like it happens all the time.
June 16th, 2009 at 6:33 am
For those of you who’re confused, see http://img.trekmovie.com/images/st09/stotimeline.jpg
June 16th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Ah, but Enterprise was heavily influenced by time travel during its first 3 seasons. If you think outside linear time, by having a different future, the Alternate Timeline may also have a different past (affecting Enterprise and First Contact).
June 16th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Kinda a shame we haven’t got a official new name for this alternative timeline.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
There’s an interview with Bob Orci out there that explains that the events of the “prime reality” aren’t erased by the events of this new movie, so rest-assured the adventures of old Kirk, Picard, Sisko, and Janeway still exist.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
well considering Voyager, (my personal favorite), was a series full of parallel time-continuous, in itself, the hell year and janeway’s future self saving them from the borg, the EMH’s 29th century holoemitter, not to mention others, i don’t see the big deal with the retcon, just another universe, and the xindi in enterprise, also never existed before, so it all changed since that point, sides multiverses are one of the most uncreative way to continue a series….get used to them !! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL (a DC writer just shot himself)
June 17th, 2009 at 1:18 am
The movie is more than just a parallel timeline. Events don’t line up at all. Chekov should have been 13 at this time. The Enterprise was actually made 13 years earlier and Robert April was it’s Captain. The Federation didn’t know what Romulans looked like until “Balance of Terror” yet Spock knew they had common ancestery and that the architectural would be similar and Uhura knew 2 dialects of Romulan. Also, Sulu would have been in the sciences at this time, not helm. If you disregard all of the previous Star Trek movies and television shows, than it was a good movie.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:14 am
Word on the street is everybody’s favorite director has completely ruined Transformers
Devastator has testicles no robot form for Soundwave wheelie farting cussing leg humping Agent Simmons in a G string Twins and wheelie have more screen time and dialogue then just about every other Transformer in the movie.
LMAO
June 17th, 2009 at 3:41 am
ok
June 17th, 2009 at 11:49 am
I dont watch a lot of star trek, and even I just flat out dont like enterprise.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Actually, I quite liked Archer, if he’s who I think he is. He taught me the word understatement. Happy days.
June 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
“Whose,” not “who’s.”
June 17th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
You want a time-loop? Enterprise had an episode directly tied to the movie “First Contact” and it ignores The Next Generation introduction of the Borg. The Crew encounters the Borg in Anarctica, they defeat them, but the Borg send out a sub-space signal that will take 200 years to reach the rest of the Borg to inform them where Earth is.
June 18th, 2009 at 4:35 am
I fairly certain that the sub-space signal is supposed to arrive just after the Federation makes it’s first contact with the Borg (via Q)…making the whole thing somewhat pointless.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
cool dude thats me
June 18th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
just kidding
June 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
great i love it but how about a wow strip that is the only nerdom thing i havnt seen up here and it is the biggest mmorpg out we need a strip on world of warcraft please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Purisits…ew.
June 19th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Oh geeze…Archer? From Enterprise? That show had terrible casting! D: Damnit, I didn’t realize it.
Wait…what Archer doesn’t realize is that this just means he won’t get a reboot from the new movie. Xp Suck it, Archer. Less screen time for you.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Oh, don’t forget that X-Men are part of Star Trek since the crossover alt. universe comic from the 90s is cannon. Therefore all those Marvel universe alternate dimensions and realities are also Star Trek cannon. It;s enough to make Q have a headache.
June 20th, 2009 at 12:11 am
wait, but if X-men are officially part of the Star Trek Universe, then so is the marvel universe, which includes the avengers, and the Transformers Vs. The Avengers is cannon (as far as I know) so that means…. oh @#$%!
June 20th, 2009 at 12:49 am
Enterprise was good, too bad “These Are the Voyages” ruined the series. I did like the Xindi arc though.
At least Jolene Blalock was gorgeous.
June 20th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I loved enterprise! Try and wrap your head around the paradox that is the events of first contact occurring even though Picard’s crew now may no longer exist
June 21st, 2009 at 10:31 am
All this talk of multiverses, it’s like someone divided by 0. It’s making my head hurt.
Cool strip as always though!
June 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Cool Strip Matt…
So anybody else up for a Farscape Marathon?
June 26th, 2009 at 9:40 am
“the thing I like most about the new Star Trek direction is the loss of the Vulcans pretty much. Gives the Federation more of the feeling it’s on its own.”
That happened at the end of Enterprise though. The Vulcans had basically backed out by then. I just like that a planet got destroyed without getting saved deus ex machina style ten minutes later ::cough Generations cough::
July 6th, 2009 at 7:27 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Although knowing Janeway, she’ll probably try to re-retcon herself back into existence. She’s as bad as Kirk at the whole temporal incursion thing.
July 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
“I loved enterprise! Try and wrap your head around the paradox that is the events of first contact occurring even though Picard’s crew now may no longer exist”
Oh I love that one, the diehard Trekkie nutters are as we speak disappearing in a puff of logic ha ha ha ha ha!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 am
Nerds
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Archer screwed with the Trek timeline anyway. Before the Enterprise series, it had been stated in canon that the only Enterprise captain before Pike was Robert April (and Kirk’s ship was supposed to be the first Enterprise; the clue was in the suffix-less serial number). Suddenly there’s a new captain in an earlier Enterprise… which somehow looks much more advanced even than Voyager?
I think time travel was involved, and Archer’s pulling a Rasmussen (remember Matt Frewer?)…
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Nice thought. Bad application. Archer’s Enterprise is part of the NX series. The Enterprise for April/Pike/Kirk is the NCC-1701 series. Therefore, while Archer is the first captain for starships named Enterprise, April is the first captain for the 1701 series.
November 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Packard’s team can still exist in the future of the Abramsverse, it’s just a matter of time.
November 20th, 2009 at 8:11 am
kirk was meh i only liked the rest of the crew and Pike (wheelchair version though)
picard was good all round and they showed the chain of command better in that.
sisco was great even if the show played like a TV soap
janeway. well im just glad shwe was lost in the delta zone. she was a tool before the marque joined the ship and showed her how to relax and lead in 1.
and archer just fails it ruins the whole lore of the show with how they linked him and the xindi in.
also in relics the ship cleary state “there are 5 ships with the name enterprise) refrencing the NCC1701 class so making a NX to keep lore killed this great tribute to scotty episode.
god bless you Scotty. may you and the jhonable (spelt wrong?) find eternal rest amongst the stars where we have yet to go.
December 14th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
If Enterprise ends about 102 years before Alt-Trek, how did Scotty teleport Admiral Archers prized beagle if its supposed to be porthos? Archer whould have to be about 130 at the time, and porthos…. 110 * 7 doggy years.
I know Scotty is damn good at teleporting magiks, but he aint THAT good.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:46 am
Except for starters, this is a alternate universe, almost like Ultimate in Marvel, it’s actually a different reality from what happened everywhere else in Star Trek. Technically all the adventures of the first four TV series still happened in the main timeline. I thought Neo Spock made that clear in the movie: The arrival of Nero caused a whole new timeline to open up. This is why Spock Prime or Nero just vanish or forget what happened when they arrived: Because in their universe it still happened. Nothing was erased.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Who’s DOES NOT EQUAL whose.
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:57 am
I am glad to see several others who also know of April. As far as continuity is concerned with ST: Enterprise, despite the claim that it was NX 01 or whatever, it was called Enterprise, right? If you can bear it, rewatch Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Soundtrack). Decker shows V’ger’s interface body pictures of the previous ships with the name, Enterprise. Do you see the NX? No, you don’t.
Sorry for the ranting, but it’s true.
May 21st, 2010 at 8:33 am
I’m actually confused on this one…Though I haven’t exactly kept up with Enterprise…Though from my understanding, wasn’t Enterprise supposed to be a prequel to TOS and everything else? You know, being the first starship to explore the endless void of space and to incorporate the new warp drive engine to make this all possible? Never understood all this alternate universe crap, until the new Trek movie, even then, according to reference that tends to happen, after Enterprise in retro spect..But what do I know, not much of a “Trekkie” they only had so many movies where the Enterprise (new and old) come into contact with each other through wormholes and time rifts…