Lil Formers #177: Avatar
January 4th, 2010

Lil Formers #177: Avatar

Happy 2010!

Haven’t actually seen this movie yet. Will probably wait to check it out when it’s on DVD.

^ 85 Comments...

  1. Farglesnarf

    Ah, yes, Dances With Smurfs. XD I might actually go see that with my dad soon.

  2. neolanzer

    Don’t wait for the DVD. Watch it in 3D on a big screen. It’s a great movie.

  3. Irish

    Call it pocahontis in space, dances with giant smurfs, or whatever… for all the cliches, and there are many (especially during the big final battle), Avatar still manages to be a great film, easily best in 2009, and its actually worth all the oscars it should win, considering how titanic made out.

    btw, this is from someone who thinks Cameron hasn’t had an oscar worthy movie since aliens.

    BTW matt, I’m not sure I like this start. It’d be one thing if you actually gave it a chance, but to join in with the petty hype hating crowd, not a good portent. Love it or hate it, at least see it before you bash it.

  4. Kasek

    @Irish
    Matt didn’t do any bashing, and admitted he hadn’t seen the movie. He’s just making a joke- you know, the point of these comics- about how the aliens are compared to the Smurfs, by replacing the aliens with actual Smurfs just to show how ridiculous it is. (btw, haven’t seen the movie either, but everyone I know says it’s great while everyone I trust says its horrible.)

  5. Zenstrive

    Is that Gargamel?

  6. K-POGO

    The plot may be cliche’d, but oh-my-gawd is it pretty to look at. vehicle designs are incredible, and some of the landscape shots are just breathtaking. it’s one of those films that just begs to be seen on the big screen. bigger the better. i went to opening night at an IMAX 3-D theater and was blown away.

  7. Craig

    And remember, Irish, Matt is also referencing the South Park episode that did Dances with Smurfs.
    So it works.

    Tis funny :D

  8. ZPaolo

    Great strip! I only saw the Avatar trailer in a cinema in Italy and… I thought “this must be the commercial for a great video game”, then I realized it was a movie :D I think the smurfs… err.. aliens have lifeless faces and eyes, this is going to be another “Final Fantasy” or “Christmas Carol” IMO, the palette is outrageously vivid. The trailer was visually overwhelming (that doesn’t equal “good” btw) but not for a single moment I had the urge to go and see the movie, boh…

  9. Sara

    There are so many other things you could be doing with 2 and a half hours of your life. Go to a museum it will be just as pretty and much more rewarding.

  10. StoryMatters

    Avatar’s story, characters, captain planet themes and dialogue were boring predictable dull cliche cheesy dumb lame vapid stupid ….just like ….Transformers 2. Without a good story “3D” characters and a good script it might as well be anybody directing the movie cause it’s useless.

    Expensive 3D CGI and flashy colors with robots and aliens don’t make a movie STORY CHARACTERS and DIALOGUE matters.

    400 million dollar Fury Porn: The Movie

  11. Stotty

    Sure the story is not a new story, but it is however very well told. I went to see it in 3D and took the entire tribe (family) with me and everyone loved it. I would whole heartidly recommend that you go and watch it.

    @Storymatters … How can you compare this to Transformers 2? T2 betrayed the characters in a long run of juvenile jokes. Avatar has a classic well told story and deep ecological messages.

  12. ZPaolo

    Am I the only one who thinks that the aestethics of 3D clashes a lot with depth of field and out of focus? When a filmmaker uses different focus planes to convey attention to one particular detail (i.e.: in a dialogue switching front and back to the faces of characters) the effect is completely spoiled by 3D :(

  13. Sinister

    Putting it bluntly… the story of this movie is essentially a clumped together mixture of the Mighty Whitey and Noble Savage tropes - the Na’Vi are all enlightened to the point of being perfectly in tune with their spirituality and the environment in which they live… but not so much that they don’t need a white guy gone native to save their blue asses. Also, I could tell how it was going to end within about half an hour, which isn’t really a good thing. Plus, all the posturing about the environment would have made Captain Planet blush.

    However… for all its faults, it’s a very entertaining movie, and one I would gladly watch again. The visuals are astonishing, and the variety of Pandora’s native wildlife is pretty damn cool (and it has a large amount of bad-ass mecha technology in it, which automatically lends it a big dollop of awesome). I didn’t really have a problem with the dialogue, personally, but then again, I’m usually very forgiving about stuff like that.

    I’d recommend it.

  14. Tf-fan

    Well this sure would have been more hillarious in comparison to the real thing.

  15. dupul

    Matt,
    You forgot “Brainy” Smurf’s glasses!

    Happy New Years!

  16. Raymond T.

    @ Irish,
    If you think that this comic was done out of spite or hate or anything negative, then you don’t get the metal of this site. It’s called humor. You should try it some time…

  17. Matt Moylan

    @Craig: Actually, it’s just coincidence. Hadn’t heard of that episode yet.

  18. ☆☆☆ JaganaR ☆☆☆

    @dupul :
    i think ur wrong ,if he had included brainy’s “glasses” , it would have killed the pic .
    @everone who’s seen the movie , Azrael would totally Kick Butt as that cat-beast *grabs his catbeast and pets him*
    ^^ (not the hammerhead =P )
    oh btw matt, make sure you sit in the middle of the theatre , and dont , i repeat
    D O N T buy the popcorn/soda cus its a long flick (2h 30m + ) and at the best parts you will be going to the lil-formers room =)

  19. Anodythe

    Oh no…do not wait, do not walk…run to see this in a theatre. The 3-D is a bit hard to to cope with at first (bifocals, I hates ‘em) but it’s the only way to enjoy it. A DVD on the telly will not cut it.

  20. ☆☆☆ JaganaR ☆☆☆

    (guys , lets see if M2 will bend to peer pressure =) )

    matt , when this comes out on dvd/ray and u watching it at home , your 42 inch plasma (im guessing) is going to make you go

    “Why didnt i See you in the
    Movie theatre , i dont know”

    just took my mom to see this and she loved it
    (old school tekni-color herbie- type movies btw )

  21. Anubis_Necromancer from Brasil

    That’s Hilarious XD

    Avatar are good, but the plot are too much full of “cliches”.

  22. VHX

    WAIT A SEC…! Avatar has ecological messages?
    Damn, It’s like Ferngully all over again.

  23. Evilone

    Avatar is good, neat cat-people, but you don’t need the 3D to enjoy it, you may actually like it better without- or at home on DVD in peace.

  24. Armorock

    I liked that movie, this comic made me laugh out loud

  25. Aquaspark

    This is my only beef with Avatar, Camaron says he’s been working on the story for years and it has been a short story by Poul Anderson for the past 52 years. One of the best sci-fi short stories ever to be exact. Not that original to me.

  26. FPcreator2000

    Yes, yes! Te Gargamel Earth corporation has sent us here.

  27. BorZ

    Someone tells me it’s the first part of a trilogy, and another guy concluded it’s not THE story it’s just introduced Pandora to us. The story will come in the next episodes.

  28. BlueNight

    If you’re a conservative, it’s a good story if, and only if, you remember that the drill sergeant is actually a corporate merc, and the scientists’ salaries are probably contingent upon any useful pharmaceuticals they discover.

    If you’re not, you’ll love it already.

    Either way, the film is visually indistinguishable from reality, especially in 3D.

  29. Dierna

    Avatar is essentially Pocahontas meets Atlantis the Lost Empire meets Dances With Wolves meets Fern Gully meets Braveheart with a pinch of Call me Joe (the Poul Anderson story)…..and despite all that I loved every min of it….

  30. Zenstrive

    I wonder if the Earth colonization ships will be greeted by, wait for it, a flurry of supersonic seeds blasted from Pandora’s floating Islands that now acts as its defense turrets that draws power from the planet’s core.

  31. Irish

    @ Dierna, you forgot to mention the influences from Aliens, Titanic, and even Fitzgerald and the bible in the film. Its kinda like matrix in the way it borrows from other universes and established stories.

    I agree that right wing conservatives will utterly hate this film. there are some pretty blatant referrences to the gulf war, and military = bad while nature = good.

    Yet I’ll say it again, for a the derivative and contrived aspects of the film, It actually made me fall in love with its universe and characters. I can’t remember when a supposedly oscar worthy film made me do that.

  32. dupul

    @☆☆☆ JaganaR ☆☆☆

    Actually any identifying characteristic for a smurf would do. (Vanity Smurf’s mirror, Brawny Smurf’s Tattoo etc.)

    That way the Avatar wouldn’t have been just another cliche- a faceless Navii that rose to become the hero..of…his….people…ooh. that was the point wasn’t it….. Ha Ha Ha.

  33. Stine

    lol! i KNEW it would be smurf! :)

  34. ☆☆☆ JaganaR ☆☆☆

    @ durpul
    lol , maybe but dont u remember that clip from Robot chicken where gargs finally gets his wish and eats em (i aint saying nothing cus it will make you go WTF , **lulz**)
    ; it should be a smurf we all like (carpenter , chef , pimpsmurf ‘dont tell me he dont exist XD’ )not the one who is a nerdbucket
    (read: know-it-all)
    and i think its brawny’s broter whos in the pic (went to mexico with him one time and we both got drunk on gummy potion) *whistles innocently*

  35. ☆☆☆ JaganaR ☆☆☆

    post edit : and dont forget this smurf is actually missing his stubby tail , so he is def a outsider ^^

  36. Asur

    I don’t think I can add anything new to the discussion. Elements are obviously recycled, the plot is simple and predictable…but the film as a whole was amazing. Visuals were incredible, acting wasn’t half bad, and despite it tying for longest film of the year, definitely doesn’t feel like it.

    Oh right, comic…*thumbs up* it’s going to be a great year.

  37. LVJeff

    Matt, in all seriousness, you should see it in 3-D in the theater. Cameron’s trying to raise a bar, and there’s no way to give his effort a fair assessment if you watch it on video at home.

  38. Idamo

    Love your work bro :)
    You should fully go see this movie on the big screen! my crappy little town in New Zealand doesnt even have a 3D theater and i still thought it was amazing :)

  39. BeansMcCain

    #177- has got to be your most cunningly humourus yet.

  40. Jarkes

    @Aquaspark:
    IT WAS?
    @Anubis_Necromancer from Brasil:
    Did you intentionally speak grammatically incorrect?

  41. David

    I saw it. It was about 30 minutes too long. The 3-D did nothing for me. If I wanted to watch a movie about the plight of the Indians, I would rather watch Last of the Mohicans.

  42. Tuqui

    I liked the movie, a lil too long maybe. I got bored around the hr and a half, but enjoyed the final battle. Its really long, not recommended to watch alone.

  43. ☆☆☆ JaganaR ☆☆☆

    @david , think about this : we waited 10 years for Freddy vs Jason
    13 years for Aliens versus Predator
    21 years for GIjoe
    and 11 years for TF

    two of them ended up being cheaply made (fvj, avp) ; under 2 hrs with the worst writing imaginable .

    TF was legos on steroids
    JOE was a flat chested girl playing a hotty and complaining that she had to wear prostetics *look it up*
    but both of them were worth the wait , giving u more bang for your buck and living up to the hype (2h 30m with no potty break )
    so what if u say it was 30 minz to long , compared to normal films that have 1H45 and plot holes galore and then said film beats a movie the REAL PUBLIC fell in love with in awards , really says something about class and taste in Cinema .

  44. Stine

    the 3D theater in our little Chinese town is charging 120 RMB a ticket… that’s like only about $ 20… but that’s also the highest a ticket’s been sold for!

    i’m going this Friday! :D

  45. Bumblebee's Girl

    i love this cartoon and i love the film Avatar!!! u rock matt!! xx

  46. Aquaspark

    @ Jarkes: In all honestly yes, this has been a well published idea for years, the ‘avatars’ used in the short story were even BLUE! The only difference was it was set on Jupiter. James Cameron is a liar for saying he came up with the story on his own. NEVER once did he even mention Poul!

  47. Jarkes

    @Aquaspark:
    I’m… really not sure you’re right. Was the short story actually called “Avatar?”

  48. Jarkes

    Oh, never mind. I’m not sure it’s exactly “rip-off,” though. Using the basic idea of another story for your own story isn’t necessarily ripping it off. I mean, look at Eragon!

  49. That Which Is Me

    @Jarkes:
    Lord of the Rings is probably a more well-known ripoff base…there are millions of LotR lookalikes.

  50. Anonymous

    @Jarkes:
    Like Avatar, Call Me Joe centers on a paraplegic — Ed Anglesey — who telepathically connects with an artificially created life form in order to explore a harsh planet (in this case, Jupiter). Anglesey, like Avatar’s Jake Sully, revels in the freedom and strength of his artificial created body, battles predators on the surface of Jupiter, and gradually goes native as he spends more time connected to his artificial body.
    Also, don’t forget that Cameron has past form for ripping off other peoples work. Writer Harlan Ellison claimed that James Cameron’s film The Terminator drew from material from two episodes Ellison wrote for The Outer Limits (”Soldier” and “Demon with a Glass Hand”). The production company that made Terminator, Hemdale, and its distributor Orion Pictures, settled out of court for an undisclosed sum, “gratefully acknowledging” the work of Ellison at the end of the film.

  51. Dan

    I thought Avatar was the best movie of 2009, actually.

  52. That Which Is Me

    @Dan:
    Absolutely. I watched it in 3D, and when it comes out on DVD, I’m going to get it. Best movie I have ever seen.

  53. Irish

    @Anonymous

    Okay dude, you made your point. Hell, theres noone who could legitimately claim avatar is at all original, but so what? being derived from multiple genres and mediums certain didn’t hurt the first matrix films reputation or total box office gross. There are worse things a director can do than drawing inspiration from another artists work, like making a piece of work that is not entertaining at all.

    All that matters is that Cameron did make Avatar entertaining, and the characters likeable. The next level style cgi, Imax and 3D presentation are just the icing for a great movie.

  54. Evilone

    @ LVJeff : If he has a good TV and surround sound system, he may like it better out home, some forthcoming DVDs now have 3D versions as well as 2D.

  55. Anonymous

    @Irish
    There is a fine line between Inspiration and Plagiarism. When a $400,000 plagiarism case is won due to evidence of Cameron saying “Oh, I ripped off a couple of Harlan Ellison stories” for the idea for Terminator in an interview with Starlog Magazine, it isn’t inspiration.

  56. Aquaspark

    I was just trying to say that even if it’s a good movie, I still don’t like it because Cameron did completely rip off Poul and he has not once given any credit to him. He’s acting like he thought this whole thing up on his own. That’s what gets me, if he would just come out and say that he got the idea from Poul then I would quit being so anal about it. I know it’s hard to have anything original now a days, but give credit were credit is due.

  57. Messenger

    I really suggest you catch Avatar before it stops showing in the cinemas, sir. It’s definitely worth it.

  58. Ninjabot

    This reminds me of a Yugioh the abridged series joke. They said the new Yugioh movie is just like avatar except that instead of intergalactic smurfs fighting giant robots, it’s a childrens card game.

  59. Jarkes

    @Irish:
    Amen to that.

  60. Jarkes

    Actually, if you ask me, the only similarities between the Smurfs and the Avatars is that they’re blue. There’s really no other similarities.

  61. Zenstrive

    four weeks and still on top. I smell another titanic, but better in ever way :)

  62. ZPaolo

    In Italy Sky is running a serie of specials about Avatar, and they are airing the trailer too… but this trailer is heavily “toned down” with respect to the overbright, overBLUE, oversaturated colors I saw at the cinema… still it doesn’t urge me to go see the movie :(

  63. Evil Ratchet

    This is the exact reason why they don’t make movies with proper plots anymore. The people watching the movies have stupified to the point where they don’t care for the plot if the visuals are good. And yes, I’ve seen the movie. My brother dragged me to the cinema by force and bought me the ticket. After half an hour I knew how the plot was going to go. 400 million dollars worth of sorft core furry porn.

    I bet nobody even remembers this movie after a while when visuals like this become a standard. Why there are black and white movies without any special effects that are still interesting? Dictator for example is still awesome movie even though it was done ages ago. Star Wars episodes 1-3 on the other hand are crap, even though they sold quite nicely and had rather advanced visuals.

    If people keep accepting crap like Avatar which relies purely on the visuals without having proper plot that’s what people will keep getting in the future. Do we want to be endlessly spammed with shitty stories with cool visuals or do we want original stories told by clever use of movie making?

    Take away the Na’Vi or whatever the furries were called and what is left? A story that has been told several times already. It doesn’t make impression on me. It’s not memorable years after and it definitely doesn’t make the movies advance as an art form.

  64. Aquaspark

    @Evil Ratchet:Bravo, I’m tired of hearing about this stupid movie. Visual shouldn’t matter when it comes to a movie, plot does.

  65. Tramp

    @ Evil Ratchet:

    I have to seriously disagree with your assessment of Avatar. It is one of the best movies I have ever seen in my entire 39 years of life. While the story is relatively simple and straight forward, that is not a bad thing. It is a very well told story. The characterizations, plot, continuity, it’s all there. It’s a classic story and one that is well told.

    As for the visuals, yes, they are absolutely stunning. The world of Pandora is absolutely gorgeous and fully believable. The wildlife is amazing. The Na’vi ire beautiful.

    Yes, the movie relies on visuals, that’s because without the exceptional level of craftsmanship that went into making Pandora as real as possible, we couldn’t believe in the world and thus the story.

    I highly recommend seeing this movie I went with my mom and saw it in 2D at the theater and were blown away. You don’t have to see it in 3D, but I highly recommend seeing it in the theater on the big screen regardless. You’ll regret it if you don’t. It is that good.

  66. Anonymous

    @Evil Ratchet: Well said! Very true.

  67. Evil Ratchet

    @Tramp: Did you read my post? I’ve seen the movie in a theater and in 3D on top of that and no, I still am not impressed.

    You talked about characterization, plot and continuity. You called the plot classic - I call it cliched. You said the characterization was good and I say it was cliche. I’ve seen all of this in a couple of CHILDREN’s movies like Ferngully and Pocahontas. Now we have this 400 million dollar movie with the exact same plot and characters. It’s not something that adult people should be content with.

  68. insertnickname

    I’m getting tired of hearing and reading that Avatar is just about the visuals.

    The screenwriting is no Almodóvar, but it’s still preety good and definitively above average. Just as a response to the hype around the movie, people judge it for what what it was never intended to be, and that is just hypocrisy. James Cameron has been around for a while, we know what to expect from him and he delivers it: a good movie with solid screenwriting, even if it’s not Ultra-screenwriting.

    And criticising the movie because the plot is not original is just being naïve. The last original plot was probably made by Shakespeare, and everything else since then is about mixing or adapting old eastern/western mythology. For god’s sake, “Star Wars/A New Hope” was about a orphan young man that leaves home to save a princess! Most people doesn’t notice those things because the storytelling is not always the same, and this is the most important thing in a movie: Storytelling, not plot.

    And the storytelling in Avatar is great, it makes you care about what’s happening and attach emotions to the characthers. The main characther’s constant need to fit in somewhere (since he, at first, doesn’t belong anywhere, even among humans) is really interesting and the villain is so deliciously hateful that you deeply desire to see him die (charismatic/sympathetic villains are becoming a new cliché. I was missing characthers like that: believable, motivated, but nevertheless real jerks).

    Finally, I think that is important to say that visuals DO matter, in a certain way, since we’re dealing with and audiovisual media. Caring about how people will see your movie is caring about how the story will be told (and that’s not just for special effects; it involves costume design, cinematography, and every other detail that any movie have) and that is the difference between Avatar and any Michael Bay/Roland Emmerich movie: the movie cares about the visuals because they will support the story, isntead of making the story a mere excuse for special effects.

    Seriously, it seems people are looking for reasons to hate the movie just to go against the hype. It doesn’t work that way. A movie can be overpublicized and good.

  69. dupul

    @insertnickname: Bingo!!

  70. duck

    It is a must see movie for the visuals only. The plot is so cliched and shallow that it could lose any plagiarism suit that is brought up against it. And the scripting itself is subpar on every level. Just because this was the first movie that used GOOD 3D doesn’t make it good. Just like the first feature length with sound, “The Jazz Singer”. Not a good movie on its other merits, just groundbreaking on the one.

  71. Evil Ratchet

    Umh, riiiiight. I disagree with you insertnickname. I didn’t get attached to the main characters and I was so disappointed that the very cliched villain got killed, because he at least had some balls. Most of the characters weren’t rounded at all and lacked a proper personality(like the chick who got killed). The main character guy, whose name I can’t recall at all, was the exact same character as they had in both Ferngully and Pocahontas. The same goes for the furry chick princess.

    What it comes to originality, it actually is possible to do even today. I went to see Slum Dog Millionaire and Inglorious Basterds earlier this year, and oh boy they were original and interesting. They weren’t full of visuals like in Avatar, but they had interesting plot and had something to tell to people. They had very interesting characters that were very well rounded. They had very good writing behind them.

    Of course neither of them were blockbusters like Avatar and ROTF, but it’s probably because people wouldn’t understand what is good movie with interesting plot and characters, even if it hit them straight to the face. Now let’s see what’s similar with ROTF and Avatar. They are both very visual movies with very thin plot and otherwise lousy writing and they still keep selling. Masses liking something doesn’t make it good or awesome movie.

    Now you would think that 400 million dollar budget’s movie would have some money for a proper writer? But apparently that’s not case. They spent the whole budget for too long, boring and over cliched piece of crap they call the best movie in 2000s. At least after this we know that James Cameron is a goddamn furry.

    I could keep on ranting for hours what’s wrong with this particular movie, but I think I’ll pass. The fans of the movie are starting to act like Twitards and I’m afraid that somebody might appear behind my window holding a Molotov’s Coctail.

  72. Sinister

    Slumdog Millionaire, while it’s an exceptional movie, is at its heart a basic rags-to-riches story in which the hero falls in love with a girl and gets to be with her at the end of the film.

    No film these days can be truly original. Not a single solitary one.

    Avatar was a solid film that entertained me for two and half hours. That’s all I ever really ask of a film, and that usually means I leave the cinema satisfied. I wasn’t expecting some grand treatise on the human condition, I was expecting to leave the cinema thinking I hadn’t wasted my tenner…

  73. Zenstrive

    People who says Avatar is subpar probably needs some attentions. Let’s give ‘em some hugs, people!

  74. Zenstrive

    @Evil Ratchet:

    Slumdog Millionaire is like eating peanut butter bread with some chilli on top and some onion hidden inside, with ginger tea to help swallowing and ice cream for dessert. They are all not original foods, but combined can taste good and feels original.

    Inglorious Basters is like slam dunking basket ball to a 5 story tall hoop using jetpack. No one will know wether it’ll be safe, but it looks like original, so one does that and it looks good!

    Avatar, oh Avatar is like Ice Cream with swiss chocolate, new zealand milk, brazilian sugar, added with italian cheese somewhere, and crafted by the most eloquent and meticulous chef, by hands, alone, full of concentration, after meditating for 7 days and 7 nights. You can taste the love among the melting delicacies bombarding your senses.

  75. duck

    “Avatar, oh Avatar is like Ice Cream with swiss chocolate, new zealand milk, brazilian sugar, added with italian cheese somewhere, and crafted by the most eloquent and meticulous chef, by hands, alone, full of concentration, after meditating for 7 days and 7 nights. You can taste the love among the melting delicacies bombarding your senses.”

    more like a cheeseburger made with goat meat instead of cow. It is seriously that unoriginal. just take a look at this: http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/epic-fail-avatar-plot-fail.jpg

    Are you people that oblivious?

  76. ZPaolo

    I see that the debate is swinging between two points: fans of Avatar start claiming its superb fun and visuals, and saying that it’s something like the best movie ever made, detractors reply saying that at the end the story is cliche and characters not developed. Then fans step back saying that it’s “just fun”…

    My point is, maybe Avatar is overwhelming, maybe it is just “great fun”, but I don’t see why and how is it going to be the “best movie of all time” or even the “best movie of 2010″… just because it was released at the end of the year, very smart, it’s going to outshadow every movie before it?

    Even in 3D CGI movies… how about Pixar’s Up? That is a GREAT movie, with stunning visuals, good use of 3D, great characters and a storytelling that’s moving to say the least… “Up” in my personal score table will beat every smurf-painted expressionless-eyed alien every day.

    Paolo

  77. Bee

    ZPaolo, I agree with you, UP is a great movie, but AVATAR still tops the chart!

  78. ☆☆☆ JaganaR ☆☆☆

    you all remember how blown away we were when reboot came out ?
    well as long as its cool like “battle for TERRA” same movie just without the cats
    ill wait to get the thing on a final Edition ;)

  79. Shock wave rulz

    Observation: This is funny

  80. GhostRider365

    2 things: 1. Avatar was probably the greatest movie I’ve seen and I watch ALOT of movies 2. Hey Matt Can You Do A Strip About Halo?

  81. Blitzwing'sgirl

    Avatar was the best movie i have EVER seen, i mean, i love Transformers, but for me Avatar trumps them.

    i’ve seen it twice in 3-d, at the theaters. i’m pretty sure it’s still in, but you shouldn’t wait till it comes out on DVD. just saying :)

  82. Marc

    ugh, all the people saying avatar was great, this is the reason the movie industry will continue to publish the same crap over and over again and not get creative. Avatar is Pocahontas (probably misspelled) in space. Oh my god, white people are invading and destroying our natural habitat, but look, that one is different, and we love each other and blah blah, we have to save our people blah blah, it’s the same crap put into a different package. The graphics were pretty, but the storyline almost put me to sleep.

  83. Marc

    while I am at it, here are some good movies to watch that are actually recent and have a great storyline. Gran Torino, Book of Eli, and Alice in wonderland (No, it is not a remake, it is intended to be a sequel to the origional). To top it off, here are some amazing classics that may not be very pretty compared to todays graphics, but are amazing. Tron, Labrynth, and Legend. Now go watch some good movies for a change.

  84. Marc

    oh, and the comment about Avatar topping the charts…you have to take inflation into consideration, here is a list of the top movies ever, adjusted for inflation to the american dollar. http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm as you can see, avatar is not the top of the charts, or even in the top ten, it is #14

  85. Marc

    Also, I want someone, anyone, to say Book of eli is a rip off of something else, please do, but if you do, have proof, cause I would like to see it.

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